CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

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Aviv Padawer-Blatt
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CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Aviv Padawer-Blatt » April 28 2022

I am working with CAMB as implemented in CosmoMC, specifically in the Modified Gravity extension ISiTGR. I have been investigating an issue regarding the CMB temperature-temperature correlation spectrum (the TT Cls) when varying a specific modified gravity parameter, and have narrowed it down to most likely having something to do with the "resolution" of points in redshift z and scale k when integrating to obtain [math] for the Integrated Saches-Wolfe effect.

In camb/fortran/equations.f90, the ISW component of the CMB OutputSources is essentially just the time-derivative of the Weyl potential, which is later integrated as a function of redshift (and indirectly as a function of scale k). I cannot figure out how the points in z and k at which the ISW integrand is computed are chosen, whether there is an algorithm somewhere in CAMB that decides how they are chosen, and if there is some parameter somewhere that controls this (eg. a parameter that determines the spacing in z or k, or how much interpolation occurs, or the regions where a higher density of points is required). Additionally, tracing through the CAMB code, I am having trouble finding where the ISW integrand (the time-derivative of the Weyl potential) is integrated to give [math], and the subsequent calculation for transforming this into a correlation coefficient Cl.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, and would aid in resolving this issue!

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Aviv Padawer-Blatt » April 29 2022

This appears to only be relevant for the python implementation of CAMB. Since I am running CAMB - to produce the theory Cls - through CosmoMC, so that I can use my results (from MCMC runs) with the Planck likelihoods (and their extra nuisance parameters) to get more accurate Cls, are their corresponding accuracy parameters in the Fortran implementation?

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Antony Lewis » April 29 2022

Sorry, I posted the wrong link

https://camb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/model.html?highlight=lsampleboost#camb.model.AccuracyParams

The structure is available in Fortran and CAMB. (though you might want to look at using Cobaya rather than Cosmomc to make life easier).

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Aviv Padawer-Blatt » April 29 2022

Oh I see, no worries, and thank you!

A while ago, we were thinking about Cobaya, but unfortunately the relevant modified gravity code is built on CosmoMC, and additionally one of the specific datasets and its associated likelihood code is already integrated with another modification of CosmoMC, all of which I have merged into amalgamation of CosmoMC code (which took a bit of time and effort).

Thank you so much!

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Aviv Padawer-Blatt » May 02 2022

By any chance, if you have time, do you think you could address my second question, ie. where the ISW integrand is integrated to give ΔT/T, and the subsequent calculation for transforming this into a Cl?

Additionally, I am wondering why, when looking at the spacing in redshift for the points at which the ISW integrand is evaluated, they are not uniform. Is there an algorithm that optimizes these points to be more dense in the regions where the Weyl potential changes quickly or is larger?

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Antony Lewis » May 03 2022

Code is around here
https://github.com/cmbant/CAMB/blob/master/fortran/cmbmain.f90#L1452

The spacing is probably log or linear in conformal time.

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Aviv Padawer-Blatt » May 30 2022

Thank you, this is helpful!

In a related vein, if I wanted to associate an ell value to each ISW integrand in camb/fortran/equations.f90 by (let's say) printing the ISW integrand and its ell value, where would I find that ell value (presumably in camb/fortran/cmbmain.f90)? To explain more: I am trying to look at the "resolution" of the ISW integrand as a function of redshift, but I want to split the results up by which ell value in the TT Cls they are contributing to (ie. after integrating the ISW integrand over redshift z and scale k, and calculating the Cl for each given ell), so they make sense (in that I should only be looking at the ISW integrand points in redshift space for each ell separately). I have looked in cmbmain.f90, but there are many different ell variables, and I am confused about which ones enter into the ISW calculation. Thanks!

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Re: CAMB: Choosing resolution in z and k for ISW integral

Post by Antony Lewis » May 31 2022

You can output time evolution transfer functions (for each k), or L-k transfer functions. See the example notebook for examples of both.

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